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+Gentoo Council 2010/08/09 meeting agenda / summary:
+
+
+1) allow all members to show up (5 min)
+  Petteri (Betelgeuse) 12 min late
+  Mark (Halcy0n) 15 min late
+
+2) voting
+  2a) we have nothing to vote this time, nobody wanted anything YAY :)
+
+3) discussion
+  3a) from last council meeting: the mailing list situation
+    * merge -project and -council mls into one (-project)
+      ** for: scarabeus, betelgeuse, chainsaw, ferringb (as experiment first
+	that could be reverted), halcy0n 
+      ** against: jmbsvicetto, wired
+    Fill up bug for infra to do this. (scarabeus will fill the bug)
+
+  3b) from last council meeting: eclass API changes
+    * document better what PV means http://bugs.gentoo.org/331921
+    * make it easier for QA to take action when common sense is *not* used and
+      things are broken
+    * QA team will update its internal policies about the process to request the
+      suspension of commit rights from a developer. The revision might involve an
+      update to GLEP 48. (QA mailinglist) 
+
+  3Y) additional deviation: fallout and suspension policies (per ferringb
+    request)
+    * learn from the python breakage to promote the importance of current
+      policies and why developers should use them properly
+    * use this as an example of how not do things and how it should be dealt
+      with and start a discussion of how to recover from it and how to ensure we
+can
+      reach users in such cases
+    * continue discussion on -project ml (per 3a) 
+
+  3Z) council comment about the Portage breakage fallout
+    * jmbsvicetto argued that Gentoo needs to acknowledge the incident, ensure
+      affected users can find correct documentation on how to fix it and make it
+clear
+      that the practices that lead to it are neither appropriate nor acceptable 
+
+  3c) EAPI 4 status (jmbsvicetto nominate this so we actualy do something new)
+    * ferringb will review the status, and try to find some minion to help him
+
+ 4) Bugs assigned to council@ in bugzilla and their progress
+
+https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=
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+
+    234706
+      halcy0n will create new draft proposal soonish
+    256451
+      last summary tbd by betelgeuse
+    256453
+      wired wrote nice patch and it will be updated according to the comments on
+	-project
+    237381
+      jmbsvicetto plans to have something to show next mont meeting
+
+5) select the chair for following meeting
+  chair: wired
+  date: 2010-08-23