From 57aef36225499e28e795e705c6ddfd81de6bb5c5 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:54:22 +0000 Subject: Added log and summary for the 20110608 council meeting. --- meeting-logs/20110608-summary.txt | 141 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 141 insertions(+) create mode 100644 meeting-logs/20110608-summary.txt (limited to 'meeting-logs/20110608-summary.txt') diff --git a/meeting-logs/20110608-summary.txt b/meeting-logs/20110608-summary.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..5bb232a --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20110608-summary.txt @@ -0,0 +1,141 @@ +Council 2011/06/08 meeting summary +================================== + + +Agenda +------ + + * roll call + + * ChangeLog policy + * GLEP48 review + * Removal of support for old-style virtuals (ulm) + * Review of the ending council term + * Council web app + + * open bugs with council involvement + * open floor - listen to the community + + +Meeting +------- + + * roll call + + here: + + Betelgeuse + bonsaikitten + chainsaw + jmbsvicetto + scarabeus + wired + + missing: + + ferringb + + + * items for discussion / vote + + * ChangeLog policy + + The policy approved by the council in the last meeting gave rise to some incidents and sparked much + debate. In the fallout Fabian made a request[1] for the council to discuss the ChangeLog generation. + Jorge suggested the council should divide this topic in 2 issues: the result of the policy approval + and the request to review the policy. + Jorge made a point of thanking both the QA lead and deputy lead for addressing the ChangeLog policy + and enforcing it inside QA, as well as thank DevRel (which Jorge and Petteri are part of) for their + resolution of the bug. Tony argued that the ChangeLog policy is working as intended. Petteri argued + that the policy is strict but that it does show how the problematic people react to policies in + general. + After some discussion regarding the "strictness" of the policy and whether to accept the request to + review the policy, the council decided to not review the policy with 5 no votes and 1 abstention. + The council issued a clarification note about the policy stating that as one removes the ChangeLog + while dropping a package from the tree, there is no need to update it while commiting a package + removal. + The discussion then turned to the point about automatic generation of the ChangeLog. The following + debate mentioned having repoman -m call echangelog, having the ChangeLog files generated server + side and completing the move to the git tree. + A vote was called stating that the decision of the council about automated changelog messages is + that repoman be updated to add the commit message to changelog, until such time as changelogs can + be created server side. The council also urges individual developers to join the effort to move + the tree to git. The vote was carried with 5 yes votes and 1 abstention. 2 council members each + approved one part and abstained on the other. + Tony made a point of recalling that this decision does in no way affect the decision not to update + the changelog policy, so developers are still required to update changelogs for every commit. + Tomas[2] and Alex[3] provided some commit wrappers to call echangelog. + + [1] - http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_2ff02d6910d797045af3659fb21c712f.xml + [2] - http://dpaste.com/552036/ + [3] - http://paste.pocoo.org/show/403011/ + + + * GLEP48 review + + Jorge submitted a proposal to the ml to update GLEP48[4]. + After some initial debate over the power granted to the QA team, the timeline in case + of an escalation to DevRel, the relation with DevRel and whether QA should only enforce + policies or also take part in creating policies, after the request by Patrick, Jorge + suggested pushing this back to the mls. + Petteri then asked the council to at least vote to commit the non suspension related + parts of the proposal. The diff[5] was approved with 6 yes votes. + Alec during this discussion presented some thoughts about the QA team[6]. + + [4] - http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/msg_ac161677a6e06a8647e16420eeae8d47.xml + [5] - http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0048.txt?r1=1.3&r2=1.4 + [6] - http://pastebin.com/C1jGF1DJ + + + * Removal of support for old-style virtuals (ulm) + + Ulrich made a request to the council to remove the support for old-style virtuals[7]. + Jorge asked if there could be any compatibility issue with old installations and Petteri + asked what would happen to the vdb for old packages. Ulrich replied there should be no + compatiblity issues as it should be comparable to a package removal. So if the PM can't + resolve the old-style virtual, the package depending on it would pull the new-style + virtual. + The proposal was approved with 6 yes votes. + + [7] - http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/msg_7986aa2d9651c600f7302a8d84cc3721.xml + + + * Review of the ending council term + + Several council members took this chance to look back at the ending term and to make their + evaluation of what was accomplished. Most agreed it was fun and that it was nice working + with the other elected members. The members also wished a good time for the next council. + There was some talk about the move to git, including that council wasn't able to get it done, + a mention about not having moved forward with the GLEP 39 reform and a listing of some ideas + for next council. + + + * Council web app + + Joachim Bartosik, a GSoC student at Gentoo, who is working on a RoR app for council[8], + did a short demo for council members. The council was able to see the current state of + the app and the state of the meeting bot. + + [8] - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/jbartosik/19001 + + + + * open bugs with council involvement + + The only bugs mentioned during the meeting were: + + bug 237381 - "Document appeals process" + Jorge said he failed to present a proposal for this bug. + + bug 341959 + Alex said he still needs to fix this bug and that he will do that soon. + + bug 362803 + Jorge commited the update approved in the council meeting to the text version + of the GLEP before the meeting ended. He promised to work in the html version + later in the day. + + + * Open floor - listen to the community + + No issue was brought forward to the council. -- cgit v1.2.3-65-gdbad